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	<title>Comments on: Historic Carmack House Stripped</title>
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		<title>By: Cliffe</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-36350</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update from Bill Zosel:

"The consideration of the Carmack House by the Landmarks Board has been postponed from February 18.  Now it's scheduled for April 1.  A potential purchaser is in conversations with the estate, owner of the property.  If an agreement can be reached the house may be purchased and moved to another location.  That potential purchaser does not oppose the designation of the house as a landmark while the current owner (the estate) does oppose designation."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update from Bill Zosel:</p>
<p>&#8220;The consideration of the Carmack House by the Landmarks Board has been postponed from February 18.  Now it&#8217;s scheduled for April 1.  A potential purchaser is in conversations with the estate, owner of the property.  If an agreement can be reached the house may be purchased and moved to another location.  That potential purchaser does not oppose the designation of the house as a landmark while the current owner (the estate) does oppose designation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-36192</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The consideration by the Landmark Preservation Board (mentioned by Mark in an earlier post) will not take place at the February 18 meeting.  In light of the damage to the building and the possibility of a new owner of the house (not the property) the Squire Park Community Council, the sponsor of the Landmark nomination, has asked for a postponement.  The current date for that consideration is April 1.

The current owner of the property opposes the designation of the house as an historic landmark, at least so long as it sits on property it owns.  The current owner is not a "family".  It is the estate of Irene Jewdoschenko the late owner.  The beneficiaries of the estate, I'm told, include several charities including Swedish Hospital.  

The administrator of the estate has a fiduciary duty to the beneficiaries.  The estate believes the fiduciary duty is inconsistent with preserving the house on the property.  The current zoning of the property is  SF (Single Family) which, ostensibly would allow only single family development.  However, the property is included in what is known as the Providence Hospital Major Institution Master Plan overlay.  The overlay allows development of the site to a more intense degree (higher, bigger, different use) than a single family home so long as the development is "functionally related" to the Swedish Medical Center that now occupies the site. So, if the property were acquired by Swedish Medical Center, or perhaps by the Sabey Corporation which owns approximately half of the Swedish campus, there could be more intense development of the site.  Presumably this greater degree of development would also be more valuable.

A proposed development of the site for a use not functionally related to the Swedish Medical Center would not be permitted by the Land Use Code, unless it is a use allowed in a single family zone.  (Basically, a single family home, or a small nursing home or adult family home.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The consideration by the Landmark Preservation Board (mentioned by Mark in an earlier post) will not take place at the February 18 meeting.  In light of the damage to the building and the possibility of a new owner of the house (not the property) the Squire Park Community Council, the sponsor of the Landmark nomination, has asked for a postponement.  The current date for that consideration is April 1.</p>
<p>The current owner of the property opposes the designation of the house as an historic landmark, at least so long as it sits on property it owns.  The current owner is not a &#8220;family&#8221;.  It is the estate of Irene Jewdoschenko the late owner.  The beneficiaries of the estate, I&#8217;m told, include several charities including Swedish Hospital.  </p>
<p>The administrator of the estate has a fiduciary duty to the beneficiaries.  The estate believes the fiduciary duty is inconsistent with preserving the house on the property.  The current zoning of the property is  SF (Single Family) which, ostensibly would allow only single family development.  However, the property is included in what is known as the Providence Hospital Major Institution Master Plan overlay.  The overlay allows development of the site to a more intense degree (higher, bigger, different use) than a single family home so long as the development is &#8220;functionally related&#8221; to the Swedish Medical Center that now occupies the site. So, if the property were acquired by Swedish Medical Center, or perhaps by the Sabey Corporation which owns approximately half of the Swedish campus, there could be more intense development of the site.  Presumably this greater degree of development would also be more valuable.</p>
<p>A proposed development of the site for a use not functionally related to the Swedish Medical Center would not be permitted by the Land Use Code, unless it is a use allowed in a single family zone.  (Basically, a single family home, or a small nursing home or adult family home.)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Bookwalter</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-35252</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Bookwalter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncle Sam, the existence of a police report might be a tipoff that a crime was committed.

But you're right, all buildings past their prime should immediately be razed and replaced with the most modern, trendy, up-to-date structures possible. Everyone knows that design just gets more and more timeless as the years pass. :-)

My impression is that the family that owns the property is very interested in seeing the house preserved, just somehwere else. Unfortunately, the media types I talked to said that they (The owners) weren't interested in talking to the press about this story, but KOMO and KING have covered the theft to some extent.

-andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Sam, the existence of a police report might be a tipoff that a crime was committed.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right, all buildings past their prime should immediately be razed and replaced with the most modern, trendy, up-to-date structures possible. Everyone knows that design just gets more and more timeless as the years pass. <img src='http://www.vintageseattle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My impression is that the family that owns the property is very interested in seeing the house preserved, just somehwere else. Unfortunately, the media types I talked to said that they (The owners) weren&#8217;t interested in talking to the press about this story, but KOMO and KING have covered the theft to some extent.</p>
<p>-andy</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-35051</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the owner hired the company?  Remember that Benaroya was able to demolish the Ballard Mannings after the Landmarks Board allowed it because they felt Benaroya was entitled to a 'reasonable profit' and reversed the Landmark Status..  Owners can apparently do what they want with their own property.  Shocking. Why can't we tell them what to do?  Oh, yeah, that's right.  They own the property, not us.

Sorry to see it go but this house is past it's prime and the owners have the right to use their property as they choose.  And I imagine it is zoned for something other than single family homes based on it's location.  Would have preferred that Nickel Brothers had a chance to move it rather than have it demolished and sent to a landfill.  At least most of the good stuff was saved.  Watch for the demolition permit to show up anytime....

Now if it was a crime (unbelieveable) then that's just not right.  But neither is a car prowl and this will likely rank right up there with those crimes on the list of the City's priorities.  But life will go on people.....Get out there and live it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the owner hired the company?  Remember that Benaroya was able to demolish the Ballard Mannings after the Landmarks Board allowed it because they felt Benaroya was entitled to a &#8216;reasonable profit&#8217; and reversed the Landmark Status..  Owners can apparently do what they want with their own property.  Shocking. Why can&#8217;t we tell them what to do?  Oh, yeah, that&#8217;s right.  They own the property, not us.</p>
<p>Sorry to see it go but this house is past it&#8217;s prime and the owners have the right to use their property as they choose.  And I imagine it is zoned for something other than single family homes based on it&#8217;s location.  Would have preferred that Nickel Brothers had a chance to move it rather than have it demolished and sent to a landfill.  At least most of the good stuff was saved.  Watch for the demolition permit to show up anytime&#8230;.</p>
<p>Now if it was a crime (unbelieveable) then that&#8217;s just not right.  But neither is a car prowl and this will likely rank right up there with those crimes on the list of the City&#8217;s priorities.  But life will go on people&#8230;..Get out there and live it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-34945</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Cliffe--friend, former neighbor, and conspirator:

What about papering the neighborhood with flyers to see if anyone saw anything?  Particularly at the bus stop.  Couldn't hurt, maybe someone remembers something.  I'd be happy to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Cliffe&#8211;friend, former neighbor, and conspirator:</p>
<p>What about papering the neighborhood with flyers to see if anyone saw anything?  Particularly at the bus stop.  Couldn&#8217;t hurt, maybe someone remembers something.  I&#8217;d be happy to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-34913</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 05:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Does anyone know why that old fire station In the U-District next to the library is fenced off with a Land Use Action Sign? I couldn't stop to read it and it's making me worry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Does anyone know why that old fire station In the U-District next to the library is fenced off with a Land Use Action Sign? I couldn&#8217;t stop to read it and it&#8217;s making me worry.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliffe</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-34847</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: Well said. I updated the text to reflect your points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: Well said. I updated the text to reflect your points.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-34846</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The loss of interior architectural features won't help, but landmark designation depends primarily on exterior integrity and, in this case, historic/social significance of the house, which are intact.  There is still a very strong case for historic designation and everyone who cares about the Carmack House and neighborhood preservation in Seattle should support the nomination and let the Landmarks Preservation  Board know it.  The hearing is scheduled February 18,  3:30 PM, Seattle Municipal Tower 40th Floor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The loss of interior architectural features won&#8217;t help, but landmark designation depends primarily on exterior integrity and, in this case, historic/social significance of the house, which are intact.  There is still a very strong case for historic designation and everyone who cares about the Carmack House and neighborhood preservation in Seattle should support the nomination and let the Landmarks Preservation  Board know it.  The hearing is scheduled February 18,  3:30 PM, Seattle Municipal Tower 40th Floor.</p>
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		<title>By: didi</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-34619</link>
		<dc:creator>didi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that story Cliffe linked just made me sick to my stomach. For the life of me tuntil now, I have never even heard of such a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that story Cliffe linked just made me sick to my stomach. For the life of me tuntil now, I have never even heard of such a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliffe</title>
		<link>http://www.vintageseattle.org/2009/02/05/historic-carmack-house-stripped/#comment-34598</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example, 1914 building at the corner of Second Avenue and Stewart :
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/10/23/smashing-history</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example, 1914 building at the corner of Second Avenue and Stewart :<br />
<a href="http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/10/23/smashing-history" rel="nofollow">http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/10/23/smashing-history</a></p>
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